"We sleepwalk through our environment. Most of us are totally unaware of how little of our natural environment now remains in coastal Southern California. I submit that man may need some natural areas in his human environment much more than does our depleted wildlife." -Donald Shipley

With an easy going style and animated delivery, visitors seem spellbound as Winkler tells them about creatures in the Interpretive Center and beyond. 

"A gentleman who lived behind the nature center dropped by one day and asked me what could be living on his roof," he said. "I suggested it might be opossums or some type of rodent."   

"Could foxes live up there' I think that's what is on my roof," the neighbor queried. Winkler offered a frown and said it was unlikely. The neighbor then pulled out photos and asked him to take a look. Pictured were several red foxes sitting on a roof top on Rio Vista Drive in Huntington Beach.  

Foxes were apparently were climbing a shed on the man's property and hopping from there onto the roof. As coyotes have encroached into their territory, the few that exist have begun to seek other places to live, Winkler stated.   "Let's say that there are possibly only a few foxes in this territory."